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  • Jamie 7:30 am on December 2, 2012 Permalink
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    Email Notification of Mentions 

    I added a new capability on Pitch this morning. Now, if when you post or comment here and you using an @thingles to notify someone they will get an email letting them know. So, @garrick will get an email making sure he knows I mentioned him. This works in comments as well. Kubb on!

  • Garrick van Buren 5:32 pm on September 27, 2012 Permalink
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    Planet Kubb ‘Unite People and Create Peace’ T-Shirt – $15 

    The first run of Planet Kubb Unite People & Create Peace T-shirts will be in Dallas. $15 + $5 shipping.

    If you’d like a different size (womens, kids, etc) – email me

  • Jamie 8:31 pm on September 26, 2012 Permalink
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    Ask Planet Kubb Improvements (Sep 2012) 

    The open source software behind Ask Planet Kubb is Question2Answer and a new version came out today. I just upgraded Ask Planet Kubb to this new version (1.5.2 to 1.5.3). Most notably it has a much nicer theme that I’ve moved the site too. Much cleaner looking. I also updated the Polls plugin (1.5 to 2.1) and the Embed plugin (1.2 to 1.3). If you see anything wrong on the site leave a comment here.

    I also enabled Recaptcha on Ask Planet Kubb. There were over fifty accounts created by spammers, most never used for that intent but I really don’t think that many people with Russian email addresses were registering. To keep things clean, I enabled Recaptcha. I also enabled Recaptcha for anonymous users. You can still ask a question on Ask Planet Kubb without registering.

    Lastly, because we’ve had a couple of incidences of spam, I added yet another gate of moderation. For any account that has less than 150 points (you start with 100 and get points for activity) those posts, comments and answers will require moderation. This should alleviate any further questions about cheap health insurance. Ugh!

    Have a great day! Kubb on!

    • ringerjr 9:43 pm on September 26, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I like the changes and extra spam filters are a good idea, hope they don’t eat much of your time!

      • Jamie 9:13 pm on September 27, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Thanks Aaron. I don’t think the moderation will take more than a minute or so every few days. Once a person has over 150 points there is no moderation so it’s just for a short period of a new user.

  • Jamie 10:42 pm on September 13, 2012 Permalink
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    Social Groups are Remaking Culture, Featuring Kubb 

    My friend and Kubbchucks teammate Jim Bernard (@bricker) presents most years at the University of Iowa on Technology, Globalization and Culture. This year, @bricker made Kubb the starting topic of his talk! It’s great! Jim comes on at 3:50 and the Kubb segments goes to around 25:00.

    (This video can’t be embedded so you will need to click out to watch.)


    Video also highlights @garrick, @dobbie, @ringerjr, Eric A and others.

  • Jamie 9:13 pm on August 20, 2012 Permalink
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    Tournament Bracket Template on Planet Kubb Wiki 

    I’ve been trying to figure out ways to use the events (mostly tournaments) in the Planet Kubb Wiki better and I really wanted a way to archive the tournament brackets as something other than a photograph. Photos don’t have any data and that makes me sad. So, I took the photo of the Class of Kubb 2012 Championship Bracket and created a template called Bracket16 to display the results. It looks pretty good for a first run. You can see the bracket on the Clash of Kubb 2012 wiki page right now. Here is a screenshot for those too lazy to click. :-)

    This is created using wiki text that looks like this. Sorry, there is no form to help with this at this point. You have to know how to do this one for now. It’s pretty readable though.

    |Title=Clash of Kubb 2012 Championship Bracket
    |Team1=Sweden's Sons
    |Team2=Tim Whalendyke
    |Team3=Goofy Kubbers
    |Team4=Kubb Knashers
    |Team6=Cheese Kubbs
    |Team7=Bloody Batons
    |Team8=Kubbilicious Maximum
    |Team9=Shin Splitters
    |Team10=The Ringers
    |Team11=Kubb and Pillage
    |Team12=Pig Wig Kubbers
    |Team13=Dark Side of the Kubbsicles
    |Team15=Rhymes with Tube
    |Team16=The Mad Tossers

    Some comments:

    1. This is reasonably DRY. You won’t misspell a team here or there since you only type it once.
    2. When the bracket is rendered all the team names are added as a Has team property for the event, so real data is created. See the “Has team” property for the Clash of Kubb 2012 event.
    3. If the team page doesn’t exist for a team the red link will show the form to create a team entry.
    That is it for now. Obviously a Bracket8 and Bracket32 would be simple modifications of this one. It would also be pretty simple to allow the results to be coded in (e.g., 2-1, 2-0, 1-2, etc). The nice thing from this is that teams could get win and loss stats even if their games are not scored completely using the scoring system. I really like the idea of getting basic win-loss stats from brackets and then detailed games stats from the scoresheets which will be used much less.


    • Jamie 9:26 pm on August 20, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Just to show what was possible, I modified the Bracket16 template quickly to pull in the Location property for any team from their Team page (if one exists). Team pages were created for all the teams as Nationals this year, so you can see this bracket now has location information for 5 of the 16 teams in this bracket. Pretty cool!

    • Chad B 1:42 pm on August 21, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Very cool Jamie

  • Jamie 7:49 am on August 9, 2012 Permalink
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    Planet Kubb Game System Aggregated Player Stats 

    All along I’ve wanted to generate aggregated player statistics across multiple games and we finally have the first iteration of that working! Each game now tracks a limited set of individual player statistics and the player pages themselves aggregate all the game data and show it in aggregate. From this we can look at @dobbie‘s player page and see he has a cumulative 72% baton hit ratio. He’s thrown 289 kubbs in the games on the wiki with 33 rethrows. We can look at @ringerjr‘s player page and see his baton percentage is 52.2% with 51 kubbs thrown and 2 rethrows.

    Want to see the top 10 most accurate baton throwers in the Planet Kubb Game System?

    Baton hit Baton miss Baton hit percent
    Dave Ellringer 39 9 81.3
    Chad Parsons 34 9 79.1
    Mark Blazel 61 22 73.5
    Josh Feathers 126 49 72
    Chris Hodges 18 9 66.7
    Mark Blezel 8 4 66.7
    Grant Scott 17 9 65.4
    Cole Vryens 53 28 65.4
    Zach Brown 45 25 64.3
    Chad Bevers 27 17 61.4
    • Dano 10:30 am on August 9, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Is there a way to separate field kubb hits from base kubb hits. It looks like the first blasters have a higher percentage which makes sense.

      • ringerjr 1:51 pm on August 9, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        This is awesome. Like to see my pop on top, even if it is for just a few games!

      • Dobbie 10:11 am on August 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Add Mark Blazel and Mark Blezel together. Hopefully I just above him. HAHAHA

        • Chris Hodges 10:42 am on August 10, 2012 Permalink

          Mark Blazel 69 26 72.6
          Josh Feathers 127 49 72.2


    • Chad B 9:48 pm on August 9, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Very cool.

    • Eric 7:07 am on August 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      OK, this thing works. I don’t want to rain on a parade here. Although I think this system is pretty cool, I wonder what it all means and what are we trying to do and show? This is just a small percentage of games/matches that people have played. Not that it matters at all to me, and we are a dozen kubb freaks tossing stats out at each other, but I think it is pretty misleading. Take Josh F. and Mark B. JF has 175 throws. Mark has 12. JF has throws from a friendly? You should have seen Team Kubboom yesterday morning at 5am at our friendly at Aaron’s house. They were tossing 50 percent from eight meters. If we had videoed that and posted it on YouTube, would that make the stats? Another thing is the whole blaster, clean-up, 8-meter positions. Obviously Dave is good, but it is very misleading to have him be first and Aaron not even on that list? Heck, where is Eric Goplin? Did he stop playing kubb? I guess that goes back to my original question, what are we trying to do with these numbers. Some people have 12 games on their page, some have two or three.

      Another question, what does rethrows for an inkastare mean? I bet there were players at the US Championship that never had a rethrow, or very, very seldom, but they were spread out all over creation. Each individual inkast means something. I am not sure a rethrow percentage means much.

      Again, I don’t want to rain on parades here. I think it is cool to see what a persons percent was for an individual game or maybe a match, especially if I am able to watch it live or on video. I am just not sure putting them all together and rating people with so many different variables (can you compate hit rates from Loppet to Rockford?, # players on a team, when you throw, round in a tournament, who your inkastare is, etc) says a whole lot.

      • Eric 8:11 pm on August 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I like the phrase “rain on a tournament”, instead of “rain on a parade”, I guess.

        Perhaps I did not say it the correct way before, and I am not sure which page I should be typing this, but I will just stick with this one, instead of both. I think it comes down to the question of what are we trying to show?

        First, I really appreciate everything that everyone is doing.On my end, I have to be honest with myself and realize that I will not have time to enter information, data, etc. Back to the questions at hand, I just look at some statistics as not reality, so I have another analogy, and I guess it comes from my real job. If I am working with a community and we do a community survey, what is needed to be statistically accurate? If we get a return rate of 5%, that is not going to do a whole lot. I guess that is the case for everything. It seems like we are comparing apples and oranges, or we don’t have enough apples, etc. If a person/team plays in the semifinal of a tournament and is videotaped and the other semifinal match is not (say U.S. Championship), I think it is difficult to compare data of say Team Knockerheads and Kubbsicles. In addition, if someone is playing in the U.S. Semifinal, that was their 8th match of the tournament. Taking video of two (or even one) matches of nine, that is really not very accurate. I am not sure what any solution is with this, and perhaps it all comes down to the fact that some people will have a lot more videos than others and we just all accept that this is what we have and we cannot improve on it. ( Where is the video of Sweden’s Sons game against Los Padres in Minneapolis this year? I WANT those stats on there. There is no video, so the person that went something like 9 or 11 at eight meters is not on there. I obviously am joking on the “want” to have it on there, but these are the things that throw it for a loop) I guess it goes back to a simple question and that is, what are we trying to show? If the answer is percentages based on the very limited amount of data we have, then we are hitting it.

        Has anyone seen what they are doing in Switzerland?


        I am really hoping to do an article in Kubbnation Magazine about them and PK this next year. I am very curious how they do it, how it works, etc.and how we are moving forward, etc.

        The one big thing that I am curious about is this. Do they get overly competitive with this (will we with ours?). Will some not show up at tournaments “just to have fun”, will this limit three-person teams, etc. Again, there are not a whole lot of people looking at this, but this game is going to keep growing, right? What is the future? Myself, I don’t think much will change at tournaments, as it is pretty competitive now and worrying about your hit rate, is the least of ones worries.

        Again, a HUGE thanks to everyone working on this. It is amazing and wonderful to have people working on these things. Please do not take anything that I am saying that I do not appreciate it and/or that I am saying that you are doing things correct.

        • Jamie 8:18 pm on August 10, 2012 Permalink

          I don’t see video as being totally needed. My hope is that people will just print out some scoresheets and that some spectators will find it fun to score the games. Just like some people do at baseball games. I found that I enjoyed watching the games better when I scored them. I don’t think we’ll have that many recorded games really. But we could have a lot of scored games.

          A number of the games there now are video games because we created the data to test the system and make sure things work. The US Nationals games have little to no video except the ones that Knockerheads are in. But they all had scoresheets.

      • Jamie 8:14 pm on August 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Note the example of Josh F. and Mark B. wasn’t correct data. The Mark B. that had 12 throws was a misspell of his last name. Using the corrected data Mark B. has 95 throws at 72.6% and Josh F. has 176 throws at 72.2%. Mark B. has 10 games and Josh F has 12, which includes 1 friendly (that actually brings his ratings down). I agree friendlies should likely have the box unchecked for including in all stats.

        Also Goplin is #11 on that list, right after Chad B.

        I think given that this data has never existed before, we’ll need time to figure out what to do with it. And the reality is that there are not even close to enough games in the system to generate high quality stats yet. At this point I’ve just got all the code working for data to flow from games to players and teams. To see what this could look like.

    • Eric 7:14 am on August 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      OK, I am on a roll this morning. If this thing is going to be used, are we going to load the stats from all the videos we have? I know the Dallas Oktoberfst Final and Loppet semifinal are out there two. I don’t see Paul Mullen on this list. Plus, Eric and Coles percentages will for sure go up after Game 1 of Dallas, Now, we lost both of those matches, but I was wondering if/when stats from those will be listed. Who enters stats for what?

      • Dobbie 10:09 am on August 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I agree, the stats system needs “in scope” and “out of scope” games. I suggest taking out friendlies from the stats, and games that are in a tournament setting are good to go. It would be neat to filter just US Nationals games. A quarterfinal game at Nationals could have more “butterflies” than a final game in another tournament.

        I think rethrow count (or percent) shows the “aggressiveness” of an inkastare as they attack the corner. I personally like it.

        And I think if we say only tournament matches go into stats, that may help with some of the concern.

        Secondly, I would love to add as many tournament matches that is out on Youtube. Anyone can add them, and I just haven’t had time yet. Eric A. can add them, but I know that guy is busy too. But it’s fair to say that these stats are not “complete” just yet, and more tournament games need to be added.

        I can’t wait for tournament games from Europe start going in. I want to match my stats with the best in the world to get some perspective.

        • Chris Hodges 10:32 am on August 10, 2012 Permalink

          Agreed on the “in/out of scope” concept. Dobbie & I had actually discussed whether or not to add DMK Ranked Ladder matches and I counseled against it. I don’t want us to become a stat generating machine and flood the results here with our games – Planet Kubb stats should (at least in my opinion) be about championship caliber Kubb, not necessarily about any one player or club.

          With that in mind, I’d like to suggest that we limit these aggregated stats to:

          1) Quarterfinal matches or later at the National Championship
          2) Semifinal matches or later at other tournaments
          3) Matches where video is online so accuracy of the stats can be independently verified

          …on the other hand, perhaps a huge amount of data is a good thing and we SHOULD be recording every possible match? If so, I think we should include an indicator flag to filter on for when we just want to examine the nature of these high-level games.

          @Eric – The 2011 Dallas Finals are up, but they aren’t broken down to the player level, mostly because I couldn’t remember the name of the 3rd member of Dead Rabbits (sorry!)


          Once we get that piece and build those player pages then the stats should be aggregated in the above stats.

        • Garrick 11:32 am on August 10, 2012 Permalink

          I’m inclined to include any match that’s within a tournament atmosphere – otherwise I don’t think we’ll get the quantity of stats needed for this to be most useful.

          Also – note, the Game Form does have a ‘Include in statistics’ checkbox. This supports the DMK Ladder games and friendlies being documented for the purposes of record keeping & personal improvement without impacting the tournament-level stats.

        • Chris Hodges 11:39 am on August 10, 2012 Permalink

          Do you think there would be value in grouping them by “Non-Tournament/Early Tournament/Late Tournament”?

          On the one hand I think the more data we collect the better, on the other I think there is a compelling reason to set the elite games aside and view them independently.

        • Jamie 11:43 am on August 10, 2012 Permalink

          There is a field already in the game system for this:

          Include in statistics: Include this game in overall calculation of player and team playing statistics.

          The code isn’t looking at it yet, but that is specifically for this purpose — put a game that you just want to record for personal purposes (team practice?) but not have it roll up into cumulative statistics.

        • Chris Hodges 11:49 am on August 10, 2012 Permalink

          I noticed that in there, but wasn’t sure of the exact functionality. Do you think it woulod be feasible to change that from “include yes/no” to “include in group A/B/C”?

          I think there is still value in aggregating casual games (and presumably over time this would be the largest of the groups and therefore give us our largest sample size), but I think we would want to look at them seperately. Right?

        • Garrick 1:27 pm on August 10, 2012 Permalink

          Chris, I like where that’s going, and I can see a tweak that will allow us to do this as well as make it easy to aggregate the stats for a other types of play e.g. the stats for all the DMK Ladder matches.

        • Eric 7:37 pm on August 10, 2012 Permalink

          David Smith – usually plays for Amateur Hour – Chippewa Falls.
          Not that he does not want his scores on there, but have we thought about if everyone wants all/some of their information on this?

        • Jamie 8:09 pm on August 10, 2012 Permalink

          By the way, the filtering for “just US Nationals games” is why the games have an Event property, to do just that. That can then be a filter that affects whatever other queries are being performed.

    • Dobbie 9:35 am on August 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      You don’t want to separate field from base necessarily, but 8 meter shots vs. less than 8 meter shots. This really gives you a good story on blasting percentage vs. sniping.

  • Jamie 7:18 pm on August 8, 2012 Permalink
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    Kubbs in Play Graph on Planet Kubb Games 

    There is a new graph on the game pages on the Planet Kubb Wiki. This is a graph I had thought about for a while but was having a really hard time figuring out how to program. Now it’s there and I think it is pretty cool. The graph shows Kubbs in Play by turn for a game. It tells a visual story of a Kubb game pretty well. Each chart below is hyperlinked to it’s game page on the wiki.

    It can show a slow moving friendly game:

    A competitive game with good players that are stuck at a plateau for a number of turns:

    A lopsided game that moves pretty slowly:

    An embarrasingly short game that blows up in the face of one of the teams:

    A championship game that moves along baseline by baseline at a steady clip with a strong battle:

    And even a “real Kubb game” with 10 in play for a while:

    Pretty cool! We’re just getting started with this stuff!

  • Jamie 12:18 pm on August 5, 2012 Permalink
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    Time-lapse Video of 2012 VM i Kubb 

    When I saw that VM i Kubb had a webcam setup for the 2012 World Championship I quickly wrote a script to grab the image every minute so I could do a time-lapse video.

  • Jamie 9:36 am on August 4, 2012 Permalink
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    Improvements to Planet Kubb Wiki Game System 

    (I originally posted this to the Kubb Nerds mailing list but I decided it was enough of an update I should share it more broadly on Pitch.)

    I made a number of big changes to the game mechanics on the Planet Kubb Wiki last night/this morning.

    Notably, the game templates now honor the new inkastare features of the notation, and do not honor the old. Any games that have the old notation may be wonky.

    Check out US Nationals 2012, Finals, Knockerheads v. Kubbsicles, July 15 (Game 1).

    Note that I refactored the display table so it now shows the potential for three inkastares… It’s not ideal to show it all the time, I’ll deal with that later.

    Most importantly, note the game stats. That’s right, not just batons anymore, now Kubbs too!

    Game Stats

    The system is now counting kubbs thrown, rethrows, etc. This is also true for players, here is @dobbie:

    baton_hit: 11
    baton_hit_base: 10
    last_baton: miss
    hot_streak: 2
    baton_miss: 5
    baton_miss_base: 4
    cold_streak: 1
    kubb_count: 43
    cold_streak_max: 2
    multifield_2: 3
    hot_streak_max: 6
    kubb_rethrow: 7
    multifield_4: 1
    multifield_3: 1
    kubb_penalty: 1
    multifield_6: 1
    baton_hit_advantage: 1
    baton_miss_advantage: 1

    So @dobbie threw 43 kubbs in the game (versus 16 batons!), with 7 rethrows (16% rethrows) and 1 penalty. (aggregating penalty kubb stats and missed king shots is going to be really cool)

    Note also the new multifield values (open to a better name, maybe group?). So @dobbie hit 3 doubles, 1 triple, 1 quad and 1 amazing “six”. Now I simply need to be able to aggregate a subset of these stats across games into @dobbie‘s player page.

    So the magic is that I’m finally parsing the Notation modifiers in the code. Before it was pretty brain dead, but now the system actually knows the full meaning of “4f2b” or “7i3r2p”. Coming soon I’ll be able to get the game state mechanics working (so that the scoring system knows the state of the pitch at all times). This will also allow the calculation of a baton missing a field or baseline.

    I also for the first time have set some game properties… This is where things get really cool. Ready for it? I’m only setting a few basic stats for the games right now, but…

    Let’s say I want to see all games sorted by baton hit percent? Simple!

    That URL is nasty, here is a sample of the output limiting to 10 games (note that Kubbits v Ringers game isn’t using the new inkastare notation, hence the blanks):

    Statistic baton count Statistic baton hit percent Statistic kubb count Statistic kubb rethrow percent
    US Nationals 2011, Knockerheads v. Kubbsicles, July 9 2011 (Game 2) 66 77.3 62 21
    2012 Madison Midsommar Kubb Tournament Final (Game 1) 47 76.6 48 2
    Twin Cities Winter Tournament 2012 Final Game 1 78 70.5 76 3
    US Nationals 2012, Quarterfinals, Kubbits v. The Ringers, July 15 (Game 2) 96 69.8
    US Nationals 2012, Quarterfinals, Kubb’d v. Kubbsicles, July 15 (Game 1) 96 67.7 79 3
    Rockford 2012 Championship Head Slap v. Tad Kubbler (Game 1) 48 66.7 33 3
    US Nationals 2012, Finals, Knockerheads v. Kubbsicles, July 15 (Game 2) 77 66.2 58 10
    2011 Dallas Oktoberfest Final Game 2 72 65.3 54 7
    Nordic Fest Kubb Tournament 2012 Finals Game 3 40 65 27 7
    US Nationals 2011, Knockerheads v. Kubbsicles, July 9 2011 (Game 1) 48 64.6 36 6

    HAWT! :-)

    • Dano 10:57 am on August 4, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      That’s awesome. Makes me curious about what your day job is. Thanks for all your hard work. Dano

  • Jamie 10:18 pm on July 28, 2012 Permalink
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    Kubb Nerds mailing list 

    A number of folks have been working on Kubb scoresheets and statistics systems. We’ve been doing a ton of stuff on the Planet Kubb Wiki with notation, scoresheet and storing games for analysis.

    To help facilitate discussion between people that are digging into this nerdy side of Kubb, Kubb Nerds shall we say, I created a mailing list on Google Groups.

    If you are interested in being part of the discussion around these topics go to the Kubb Nerds group and signup. I’m not sure how much email this will generate, but you can always ditch it if you don’t find it interesting.

  • Jamie 6:59 am on July 20, 2012 Permalink
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    Congratulations Kubbsicles! 

    2012 US National Kubb Champions!

  • Jamie 6:23 am on July 14, 2012 Permalink
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    Good Luck on the 2012 US Nationals Pitch 

    I want to wish all the teams at the US Nationals a great championship today! May your batons strike consistently!

  • Jamie 11:40 pm on July 11, 2012 Permalink
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    @garrick just put entries in the Planet Kubb Wiki for all the teams coming to nationals. The wiki makes a very nice map of that information!

    That is quiet the cluster around Minneapolis!

    • Eric 12:05 pm on July 12, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Love to see all the Minneapolis and Metro Area teams!

      • Jamie 7:03 am on July 20, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        It’s almost like there is some guy in Minneapolis getting friendlies together and putting on tournaments in the winter, spurring all this Kubb playing around the metro. Hmmmm… :-)

  • Jamie 9:26 pm on July 10, 2012 Permalink
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    Kubb: A Sport 

    Kubbchucks very own Jim Bernard has been firing up some practice Kubb rounds at home and his kids have taken an interest in the game. His kids put together this great introduction slide deck to Kubb. For those of you new to the game, take note.

    (More …)

  • Jamie 10:28 pm on July 8, 2012 Permalink
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    Planet Kubb Scoring System (Beta) 

    Most sports have scores and many even have a box score that shows the progression of the game. Baseball fans can look at a box score from a game and relive the game just looking at a series of numbers. We’ve been wanting to be able to do the same thing for Kubb for a long time but there wasn’t any standard system for recording a game. No standard notation system. This topic has been discussed here on Planet Kubb before and my goal was to get something that had a number of features:

    1. An easy notation system using nothing but standard text.
    2. The notation should be scalable so it works for games tracking player by player details, or simple for games with less detail.
    3. Envision something that could be sent over Twitter so people could virtually watch a game turn by turn, tweet by tweet.
    4. It should be language neutral so Kubb games can easily be shared globally.

    I think we’ve got that now, and then some!

    This weekend I slapped together three things: some clarification on the Planet Kubb Notation system, a Planet Kubb Scoresheet to use on the Pitch and the Planet Kubb Wiki can store these games and calculate statistics off of the games.



    That string is a teams turn in a Kubb game. What happened? The first throw hit 2 field kubbs. The second hit a single field kubb. The third baton missed. Fourth hit a baseline kubb. Fifth missed. Sixth hit another baseline kubb.

    We can extend this further.


    That is the same series of throws, but here the players name has been added in front of the action so we can generate player by player statistics. You can also see we threw this turn “Chad style“, each throwing 2 batons and reserving a final baton each for the end.

    Those names are a bit long to type over and over though, so in real use we would use an initial.


    The notation system proposed here is very simple. The player notation is entirely optional. There are only a few symbols used. It’s very fast!

    The Planet Kubb Notation wiki page has more details. There is even a regular expression pattern there that you could use in your own code to read these.


    At some point it would be great to score the game in realtime on your iPhone, and we’ll get there! For now, a peice of paper and a clipboard is probably the best option.

    We’ve got a couple of concepts for the scoresheet up to play with on the Scoresheet page of the Planet Kubb Wiki. Let your thoughts be known with what you like and don’t like.

    The scoresheet allows for some additional data that the notation system doesn’t handle, notably the Kubb drilling locations. The scoresheet has a miniature picture of the pitch and you can put a dot where the Kubbs land.

    Game Statistics and Storage

    If you have a game scoresheet you want to share it with everyone right? Even better, it would be great to know the statistics from the game. The Planet Kubb Wiki right now has a form that will allow anyone with an account to put a game into the wiki and it will then calculate statistics from the game as well as give a place to forever remember the game.

    To really test this I used the video of the championship match at the 2012 Rockford Tournament. The match was between Tad Kubbler (Minneapolis) and Pitch Slap (Des Moines). You may know who won the match, but forget that for a moment and go relive the games. Click on each link below to see the scoresheet and statistics for each game.

    1. Rockford 2012 Championship Head Slap v. Tad Kubbler (Game 1)
    2. Rockford 2012 Championship Head Slap v. Tad Kubbler (Game 2)
    3. Rockford 2012 Championship Head Slap v. Tad Kubbler (Game 3)

    I scored these games in realtime using the videos which had all the empty space cut out. This proved that the scoring system was definitely fast enough to score a game as it happens. The form on the wiki can handle an unlimited number of turns, they can be added as long as the game goes. The Planet Kubb Wiki is currently only calculating some very basic statistics for each game, mostly around batons thrown, hits and misses, advantage lines and baseline kubbs.

    Putting these three games into the system was interesting. I was curious if the (primitive) statistics being calculated now would be interesting and they were!

    • Match 1 and 2 the teams hit kubbs 2 out of 3 throws. In match 3 the ratio drops to 1 in 2 throws.
    • In Match 1 Dobbie carries Pitch Slap through the game with Tony not hitting well. In Match 3 the roles flip and Tony carries Dobbie through the game.
    • Eric’s missed King shot (=) in turn 9 of match 2 is a heartbreaker!
    • Josh (Dobbie) has a masterful drill followed by a “d:6f” in Turn 14 of Match 2.

    The page for each of these games dumps all of it’s calculated data points raw. This is still very rough.

    All of this work is licensed (like all Planet Kubb content) under Creative Commons BY-SA. Please share your feedback and we can all make this even more awesome!

    It would be great to use these scoresheets on a number of games at Nationals this weekend!

    I really want to hear from you all and what you think about this? What looks odd? What stats for games would you like to see? What do you think of the scoresheets? Does the notation make sense? What do you think?

    • Garrick 6:23 am on July 9, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      great work.

    • Jamie 7:17 am on July 9, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      If you want to try putting a game into the Wiki right now it’s easy, just make sure you are logged into the wiki and go to the game form. Put in a unique title for the game, something like “Kubb Friendly, Garrick v. Jamie, July 4 2012 (Game 1)”. All games must have a unique title.

      The form is pretty easy to use, just add turns as you need.

    • Chad B 8:37 am on July 9, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hey Jamie, Chad and I were talking about a score sheet just the other day. We said we should bring something with us to the Nationals. People would start wondering what we were doing after our throws. Great forms Jamie!!! Awesome work my friend

      • Jamie 11:06 pm on July 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        That’s awesome Chad. Check out the big revision to both the scoresheet and the notation system that was posted tonight. I think this is really solid now.

    • THansenite 9:04 am on July 9, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I actually developed a game tracking sheet last winter for keeping stats on games. The v2 sheet only accounts for a one on one match and I was tweaking it for team play in v3. Here is the tracking sheet if you are interested: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5FuVACCN0-vbHQ2djFvaDBxekE

      I also have a spreadsheet I built as a proof-of-concept for a complete stat tracking program for a college class I was taking. Using only kubb hits and kubbs thrown, it could tell you at any given point in the game how many kubbs were sanding on each baseline, in the field, and current percentages for all shots. A few of the DM people have seen the program that I named KITE (Kubb Interactive Tracking Engine).

    • John Pederson 9:54 pm on July 9, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      This is why I love this game.

    • Chris Hodges 10:31 pm on July 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Can we get a link to the game form (and recorded games) on the left side of the wiki? A group similar to “Information” or “Planet Kubb” would be ideal.

      Also – LOVE this. Definitely taking some prints to EC this weekend. Part of me really wants to record every game I play, but I think I’ll have to settle for every game I watch. Gotta keep my focus!

      “It is bad when one thing becomes two.”

      • Jamie 11:02 pm on July 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        That is a great idea @chrishodges — I added a section for “Games” in the sidebar with links to various game related stuff. Thanks for the suggestion.

        Note that the form for entering the games and the templates that display the game output are really rough now. A lot could be done there to make it look really nice and show even more interesting data. This is just the start.

    • Jamie 10:57 pm on July 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I just gave the notations a significant polish and added a lot of examples to help people understand how to use the notation. It would be great if people could take a look.


      The example and full game example I think help a lot. The big thing added here is more flexibility and the notation was previously missing drills and advantage line indicators. There also was no way to indicate an illegal king hit (lose the game) — thanks @jakefreeberg for that catch.

      I think this round is really, really solid. I also changed the output of the game form on the wiki to look more like the revised version. I really enjoyed the full game example. I can see how I would easily be able to reconstruct a game I never saw by looking at that.

    • Jamie 11:05 pm on July 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      A new, really close to done version of the printed scoresheet is also available now. Check it out.


      We are planning on having a bunch of these printed and bringing them to nationals this weekend.

      • Chris Hodges 12:20 am on July 11, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Wondering if it would be a good idea to have a box at the top of the page to list players 1-6 (or thru 8?) for each team. Could save a little time on the shorthand to just call somebody “P3” rather than “Scott S.”

        Another outlier situation to consider is the rescue – my opponent toppled 6 total kubbs, but with my first one I am rescuing a previously established field kubb I had left in play last turn. I take their Adv Line away (presumably), and am technically throwing 7 kubbs this round. Do you just update the Inkast box with the new number, or should there be an extra field to capture rescues?

        Also, I’d really like to see that Inkast box get a little more robust, counting kubbs to start with, kubbs rescued, kubbs OOB once (rethrows), and penalty kubbs.

  • Jamie 8:04 pm on July 1, 2012 Permalink
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    Don’t Drink and Kubb 

    This was the scene the morning after a late night of Kubb at our extended family reunion in North Dakota.

    • Jamie 8:05 pm on July 1, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      By the way, a Kubb set was ordered that same night shipping to North Dakota. Spreading Kubb westward!

      • jakefreeberg 9:26 pm on July 1, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        We played a couple guys from Montana in a Tourney last year, but I do think that westward is a good direction to spread some Kubb.

      • THansenite 9:10 am on July 2, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        A guy from Utah noticed my 2011 nationals shirt a few weeks ago. I guess kubb is gaining a pretty big following out there as well.

    • Bricker 9:34 pm on July 1, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Awesome shot

    • Dwayne 7:59 am on July 2, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Kubb should be spread in all directions!!!

  • Jamie 6:44 pm on June 28, 2012 Permalink
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    Open Thread for US Nationals Team Draw 

    The video will stream live on USTREAM at 7:00pm CT. Join on this post for an open thread discussion as it happens.

  • Jamie 11:02 pm on June 27, 2012 Permalink
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    Water Cooler Interview with Eric and Aaron on 2012 USA Kubb Championship 

    Eric and Aaron (@ringerjr) were on WBIZ Sports Radio 1400 today talking about the U.S. National Kubb Championship! I grabbed a copy and put it up here to archive it.

    Download MP3 (8.7 MB)

    • ringerjr 11:17 pm on June 27, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Thanks for posting and sharing this. I gave a shout out to y’all listening in from elsewhere! Can’t wait to get our own kubb radio network online…

    • Chad B 7:49 am on June 28, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Great interview guys and way to promote!

  • Jamie 7:25 am on June 17, 2012 Permalink
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    Planet Kubb Tournaments Updated 

    I made some changes to the tournaments (events) on the Planet Kubb Wiki.

    • Events now have a full date and time for start and end. Before they just had a date. Thanks for the suggestion @dobbie! (see change)
    • Events no longer require a contact name. Most of the entries were being created with “Unknown”. (see change)
    • Events have a “Created date” that is automatically put in by the wiki. (see change)

    The last item allows Semantic MediaWiki to provide RSS feeds of events by when they were created (as opposed to edited, which changes). Using this RSS feed I’m now syndicating confirmed Tournaments to the main Planet Kubb feed!

  • Jamie 6:42 am on June 17, 2012 Permalink
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    Ask Planet Kubb Upgraded to Question2Answer 1.5.2 

    Yesterday I upgraded Question2Answer on Ask Planet Kubb from 1.5.0 to 1.5.2. If you notice any issues let me know here.

    I also added the Question2Answer Poll plugin as well as the Question2Answer Badges plugin.

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