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  • Jamie 6:44 pm on June 28, 2012 Permalink
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    Open Thread for US Nationals Team Draw 

    The video will stream live on USTREAM at 7:00pm CT. Join on this post for an open thread discussion as it happens.

     
  • Jamie 3:17 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink
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    Open Thread (June 10, 9:00pm CT) 

    Come to this post at 9:00pm Sunday, June 10th for an open thread conversation. This is a bit of an experiment to see how this site will work for this type of thing. Nobody knows what will happen! :-)

    Getting ready?

    You don’t have to register an account here to participate but it would be a good idea. Go to the registration page and create your account. If you have one, you can go straight to the login page.

    How to talk?

    Just tap Reply on this post and start typing. Whatever you click Reply on is where your message will appear. You can also use the snazzy Like link to indicate something you are digging.

     
    • Jamie 9:03 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Man I wish I could get a blog/RSS feed out of http://wisconsinkubb.com/. I really would like that content in Planet Kubb.

      • Dobbie 9:05 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Perhaps at usakubb he could mirror the updates or something.

      • Jamie 9:05 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        The challenge is that both of those sites are pretty handmade. No WordPress or other CMS.

      • Jamie 9:07 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        By the way, if you post something on Pitch and give it the tag “Planet Kubb” it will show up on the main Planet Kubb “planet feed”, and on Twitter and Facebook.

        • Dobbie 9:08 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Interesting about tagging the planet I think usakubb may have a “blog” template. Dunno?

    • Jamie 9:09 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      So, does this work? I’ve never tried to do a real-time conversation in a blog thread. P2 makes it nice with instant notification of new things.

      • Jamie 9:10 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Skype or IRC would be a true realtime option, but this is really easy.

      • Dobbie 9:12 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        It has the benefit of logging the conversation for all posterity, and it’s easy to understand two separate conversations about different points.

      • Jamie 9:12 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yeah. It’s almost like working in Google Wave (RIP). :-)

        • Jamie 9:20 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Yeah, this feels a lot like Wave. It would actually work really well for collaboratively brainstorming some topic. :-)

        • Dobbie 9:43 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Agreed! We need to setup a monthly Pitch Session. Helps the overall mantra of Nationals regarding Unity.

        • Dobbie 9:44 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Get it? Bitch session?

      • Jamie 9:13 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I also like that every single comment has a permalink URL.

      • Jamie 9:27 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Would be nice to be able to collapse old threads so they don’t clutter up the screen.

    • Jamie 9:11 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      @dobbie I assume Steve Feathers is a relative of yours. Brother?

    • Garrick 9:14 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      @dobbie – where’s your preferred location for penalty kubbs?

      • Dobbie 9:16 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        depends on how many I think the opponents will use, but my favorite position is right on the centerline, one baton length from the pin furthest from the group.

        • Garrick 9:17 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          interesting. consistent with my thinking that penalty placement is ultimately about the advantage line

        • Jamie 9:23 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          That seems unlikely that it would ever really result in an advantage line though.

        • Garrick 9:24 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          so – it still has to make the inkasting a more attractive target.

        • Dobbie 9:27 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          In this case, if the punishment Kubb stayed up and another round was played, you would have to consider going long side. Agree.

        • Dobbie 9:26 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          It works in many ranked games we play in DM, but that is 1v1 and not tourney play. I will do it when I think there’s a chance. It would also get in my head if the opponent put a penalty on the line. I’d be all like “they don’t even think we can hit a 4 meter shot” hahaha

      • Jamie 9:16 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Curious to hear. @garrick and I were talking about this today and had talked about it with Eric Goplin before as well.

        • Dobbie 9:19 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          I used that strat on Eric G in Rockford. I don’t think it worked.

        • Jamie 9:21 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Didn’t you beat them?

        • Dobbie 9:23 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          We didn’t beat them….they lost to us. They should have taken us out. They played better, but Kubb is weird and sometimes you win a game you should have lost.

        • Jamie 9:24 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          We played a friendly with him a couple days after and he was still cursing some of his play. :-)

      • ringerjr 9:19 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        My preferred location depends entirely on the situation. I learned some tricks from Dobbie in Rockford. I liked his placement for us. It was way on the left line, a foot or two back from the centerline. I think he thought we might not have a baton left after a crummy inkastare by your truly…

        • Dobbie 9:22 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Now now….your groups rocked. I do like putting them in a bit to reduce the chance of a successful rescue if I feel the other team will throw again.

        • ringerjr 9:24 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          I think penalty kubbs are also about making the other team waste a baton with no chance of a double. Force them to reposition. You can also mess with people by being random.

        • Jamie 9:24 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          That is a really good point. I hadn’t considered the expense of a baton to take it out.

        • Dobbie 9:28 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          I heard someone say it best at Nationals – “you gotta keep those batons occupied”

        • Jamie 9:30 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          That should get a quote on Planet Kubb Wiki. Maybe we should have a page for great Kubb Quotes. :-)

        • Dobbie 9:36 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          I was a fan of Gretzsky, and I always (in jest) try to think of quotes that are like his “you miss 100 percent of the shots you don’t take” so I could probably contribute a dozen or so….

        • Jamie 9:38 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

        • Dobbie 9:41 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Now I have something to do at work tomorrow. Haha!

    • Jamie 9:14 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      A new person registered on Ask Planet Kubb and Pitch today, ringerjr. Sounds like a DMK guy.

    • Garrick 9:21 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      @ringerjr, @dobbie, either of you gone on past Nationals?

    • Jamie 9:29 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      @garrick and I were debating today while recording our podcast if the 8m throw is more or less important than drilling. I think it’s the 8m throw. Thoughts? What do you practice more?

      • Dobbie 9:31 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I think drilling. I Try to throw 100 kubbs every 3 days. I only “practice” 8 meter shots when playing friendlies.

        • Dobbie 9:33 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Consider that in a 3 game match you only have 15 8 meter targets and potentially 100’s of less than 8 meter targets.

        • Jamie 9:34 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          It shows. The videos I’ve seen of your drilling are pretty crazy good.

        • Garrick 9:35 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          @dobbie – how are you setting up the video to shoot the dmk games?

        • Dobbie 9:38 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Right now I’m iPad’ing the ranked games, stopping/starting during phases. An hour game gets cut to 1/3 of the time. I have an iPad tripod thingy as well.

        • Jamie 9:40 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Do you edit it right on your iPad to using iMovie?

        • Dobbie 9:40 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Yes. Takes about 20 minutes now that I am used to it.

        • Garrick 9:40 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          iPad tripod thingy – that explains it.

      • ringerjr 9:32 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Both important! I think a 9 m throw is most important for me right now. Drilling mistakes are huge in competition play, as are short game misses.

        • ringerjr 9:35 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          One aspect that played out for our team in Madison this weekend: We practiced as a team for particular positions and I found that I needed to be more flexible as a player. I only have so much time to practice. Does nailing down my baseline throw come at the expense of practicing other throws? You bet.

        • Jamie 9:37 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          I think this is a pretty big deal. Over specialization could really come to bite you. A 6-person all around is the way to be.

        • Dobbie 9:40 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Great write up by Eric on 2 vs 3 player teams. Made me think of a question….how many long game vs short game specialists is ideal for 3 player? What about 6 player?

        • Jamie 9:41 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          You have link to this writeup? I didn’t see this.

        • Dobbie 9:42 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

        • Jamie 9:43 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Thanks. I’m going to see if I can get that on Planet Kubb by posting a link update for it here.

        • ringerjr 9:47 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Everyone has to be good. Miss a short one and you’re in trouble. Only get short ones and miss the baseline and you’re in trouble. The inkastare makes the difference in most games now. Then it’s short mistakes or amazing baseline work that seals the win.

      • Garrick 9:34 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        right now, my 8m is my most inconsistent. And with my fondness for the short game – I’d like to make that stronger.

    • Jamie 9:42 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Is there a specific time yet for the brackets for nationals to be sent out?

      • ringerjr 9:44 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        In a few Thursdays it will be live webcasted from the Lazy Monk Taproom here in Eau Claire.

        • Jamie 9:45 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Awesome. I can’t wait. We’ll definitely have a thread open for that.

        • Dobbie 9:45 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          What do you think, Mr Ringer of having this going during that? You think folks will enjoy it?

    • Jamie 9:45 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Feedback on how this worked out? I’m going to be calling it a night shortly. You guys can keep going as long as you wish of course.

      • Jamie 9:47 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        (Talking to myself, but my notes.)

        • It’s harder to keep up with fast, short things. Slightly longer messages over more frequent messages are probably preferred.
        • Like that everything has URLs and that you can even put some HTML into messages.
        • Really fun to connect in pseudo-realtime with people.
      • Garrick 9:47 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        navigating multiple threads with multiple updates gets a little crazy.

      • ringerjr 9:48 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I love chatting with folks. The layout is a bit clumsy to navigate back and forth but it is fully functional. Not sure I need it “recorded” for the world to see…

        • Dobbie 9:49 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Yeah, most of the comments would be just fine if they melted away in the ether. Perhaps there is a “purge” button Jamie can push for coordinated sessions.

      • Dobbie 9:48 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Worked well. Relying on replies gets to a point where theres not much space, but that may be a display iPad issue. Live comment updates is fancy. Agree that it reminds me of google wave. I may try this for another project. Thanks for putting this up.

      • ringerjr 9:49 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        thanks!

      • Jamie 9:49 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Great feedback. Keep having fun with Pitch and just post whatever you wish. The idea is to have this be a water cooler for Kubb players.

        • Garrick 9:50 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          thanks jamie. overall – this worked out brilliantly.

        • Dobbie 9:51 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          I want to say a big Thank You to everyone that has made Planet Kubb what it is today. Many have tried to put together a online community for the game, and this is the only successful attempt to date. Thanks for all the late night, coding, and hard work in front of the radiating glow of a monitor!

        • Jamie 9:52 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Much appreciated @dobbie. I see you regularly adding to Planet Kubb Wiki too, and thanks for that. The goal here is to make something that the whole Kubb community sees as theirs! Just keep pushing it along.

        • Jamie 9:53 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          I would really, really like to make a tournament schedule widget that people can put on their sites powered by the Planet Kubb Wiki. That way everyone has the right and current info without duplicating it all. The wiki needs a lot of polish though. That will come with time.

        • Dobbie 9:54 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          And a more larger project is getting the minds of Kubb together to clean up and add to Wikipedia.org.

        • Jamie 9:56 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          I see you there regularly. I’m also surprised by the continuous (but small) flow of traffic that comes to Planet Kubb from Wikipedia.

        • Dobbie 9:58 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Consistent, yes, And smallish. But every click helps spread the fun of the game.

        • Jamie 9:54 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Also @dobbie, as a tournament organizer (which I’m not!) I would love to know if you think there are fields on the events form that are needed and not there, or problems with how information is recorded (like should it have date and time, instead of just date? Should team size be a field?)

        • Dobbie 9:55 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Action item taken!

    • Jamie 9:50 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Do you think that Planet Kubb Pitch and Ask Planet Kubb will cause confusion? People not knowing when to use which? Any suggestions you have on this would be appreciatated.

      • Garrick 9:51 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        if more of pitch looks like this – I think there won’t be much confusion.

      • Dobbie 9:53 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Moderation will be needed, but I see the biggest issue is folks asking questions in Pitch (which isn’t a misuse necessarily). Any great questions could be transferred to ask easily enough.

    • Garrick 9:54 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Awesome. I’m calling it a night. Later all.

    • Bricker 9:56 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Night GVB

      • Jamie 9:57 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Bricker showing up right at the end! Hey there!

        • Bricker 9:59 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Everything great happens at the end. Just catching up.

        • Jamie 10:00 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Register yourself an account so you can easily post and get email updates. Link in the right hand sidebar.

        • Bricker 10:06 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Tried but pw fail. Going to go to bed instead.

      • Jamie 9:58 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Bricker is another Kubbchuck everyone.

        • Dobbie 10:03 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Right on! Let me know what I can do to get The Kubbchucks to represent in Des Moines’ Fall Tourney!

        • Bricker 10:06 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Book it! I’m from Iowa and ready to play!

        • Jamie 10:07 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Get Jim Sr. to play with us?

        • Bricker 10:08 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          Hes a ringer!

        • Jamie 10:08 pm on June 10, 2012 Permalink

          I’ve heard the Klassic is brutal. Not for the feint of heart!

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