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  • Dobbie 12:57 pm on July 29, 2012 Permalink
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    Teams drilling at US Nationals

    Yep. This is happening

     
    • Jamie 7:23 am on July 31, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Perhaps we need a second line for “Using Proficiently”. :-)

    • Dobbie 8:17 am on July 31, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I have seen many teams come in to a tournament not knowing the technique, and by the end of the Round Robin, they are using it proficiently.

  • Jamie 10:18 pm on July 28, 2012 Permalink
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    Kubb Nerds mailing list 

    A number of folks have been working on Kubb scoresheets and statistics systems. We’ve been doing a ton of stuff on the Planet Kubb Wiki with notation, scoresheet and storing games for analysis.

    To help facilitate discussion between people that are digging into this nerdy side of Kubb, Kubb Nerds shall we say, I created a mailing list on Google Groups.

    If you are interested in being part of the discussion around these topics go to the Kubb Nerds group and signup. I’m not sure how much email this will generate, but you can always ditch it if you don’t find it interesting.

     
  • Jamie 1:58 pm on July 22, 2012 Permalink  

    Ellringer’s Peace Sign 

    Awesome, was watching this interview with Aaron Ellringer and found his mowed peace sign.

     
  • Jamie 6:59 am on July 20, 2012 Permalink
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    Congratulations Kubbsicles! 

    2012 US National Kubb Champions!

     
  • Jamie 6:47 am on July 20, 2012 Permalink  

    Has everyone recovered from their US Nationals efforts? There has been a flurry of post-Nationals work on the scoresheet, notation and game system after collecting some great game data. More to come on that soon.

     
  • Jamie 6:23 am on July 14, 2012 Permalink
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    Good Luck on the 2012 US Nationals Pitch 

    I want to wish all the teams at the US Nationals a great championship today! May your batons strike consistently!

     
  • Jamie 7:44 am on July 13, 2012 Permalink  

    Everyone else is having this for breakfast today and tomorrow right? I hear @dobbie puts dirt in his for added drilling fu.

     
  • Jamie 10:17 pm on July 12, 2012 Permalink
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    Would be a good idea to pack a raincoat for nationals! 40% chance of precipitation with scattered thunderstorms.

    “Thunder clapped in harmony with batons hitting kubbs.”

     
  • jakefreeberg 11:19 am on July 12, 2012 Permalink  

    I should also mention that I feel like there’s some Synchronicity going on for me today because I play a lot of this swedish lawn game called Kubb, and I happen to be playing in a big tournament this weekend on a Team I named Bork Bork Bork:

    http://wiki.planetkubb.com/wiki/Team:B%C3%B6rk!_B%C3%B6rk!_B%C3%B6rk!

    I’m hoping your message is a good omen.

    Jake

    On 7/12/12 3:53 PM, Andy Bork, CIR wrote:
    ——————–
    Hi Jake,

    My name is Andy Bork and I am a Recruiter with Talent Software Services here in town. I’m contacting you via email because it is less intrusive than calling. If you prefer I contact you at a different address, or call you, please let me know where to reach you

    I came across your profile and I wanted to see if you could help me with something. I am looking for a Flash / ActionScript developer for a project here in the Twin Cities.

    Would you happen to know of anyone that might be interested in an opportunity like this?

    Thanks in advance,

    Andy Bork, Recruiter
    Talent Software Services
    andy.bork@talentemail.com
    Office (952) 417-3622
    Twin Cities’ companies are full of Talent

     
  • Dobbie 11:57 pm on July 11, 2012 Permalink  

    Hodges! You on?

     
  • Jamie 11:40 pm on July 11, 2012 Permalink
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    @garrick just put entries in the Planet Kubb Wiki for all the teams coming to nationals. The wiki makes a very nice map of that information!

    That is quiet the cluster around Minneapolis!

     
    • Eric 12:05 pm on July 12, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Love to see all the Minneapolis and Metro Area teams!

      • Jamie 7:03 am on July 20, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        It’s almost like there is some guy in Minneapolis getting friendlies together and putting on tournaments in the winter, spurring all this Kubb playing around the metro. Hmmmm… :-)

  • Jamie 11:32 pm on July 11, 2012 Permalink
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    The game sheets on the Planet Kubb Wiki now have a couple of graphs as a test of feasibility. Coming along nicely! Here is a game that @chrishodges put in tonight!

    2012 Madison Midsommar Kubb Tournament Final Game Three

     
    • Jamie 11:46 pm on July 11, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Also worth noting is a new statistic in the scoring system, “cold_streak_max” and “hot_streak_max”. These are the maximum number of times you missed or hit (respectively) on baton throws. For example, you can see how in this game with @garrick, @dobbie and Jaime I missed 9 in a row! Ouch! And then look at game 1 in Rockford Championship where @dobbie hits 8 in a row.

      • Dobbie 12:00 am on July 12, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Interesting statistic. If you are hot, why not throw all 3 in a row? “Feathers Style” is something Steve F. came up with. You first identify the “hot short” (who is hitting short). They go first until they miss. Then the other player goes until they miss. Repeat. After the round, identify if the hot short is still the same person.

      • Dobbie 12:16 am on July 12, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Digging the pie charts. One thing that I feel really shares the story of the game is the percentage hit rate by Field (F) and Baseline (B). Perhaps a bar chart? Just a thought.

      • Chad B 9:19 am on July 12, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        The pie charts are cool. Love the stats!

    • Chad2 10:14 pm on July 12, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      When will the kubb scoresheet app be out for my Android phone?

      • Jamie 10:19 pm on July 12, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Significant discussion has already been had on an HTML5 “offline” web application that will run on a variety of mobile devices to accommodate scoring on the pitch. It can then either email the score markup to be put on the wiki or directly use the API for the Planet Kubb Wiki to put the game on there.

        Step 2 would be to put each turn on the wiki as it happens. Or maybe we do that out of the gate. It will happen. :-)

  • Jamie 10:05 pm on July 11, 2012 Permalink
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    Scoring Nationals 

    Just want to let everyone know that we are going to be bringing 300 blank scoresheets to nationals this weekend to give away. Would love to see people experimenting with it.

    We also are going to make a big push to score all of the Sunday games. We need 4 people to do it. We’ll be looking for volunteers that are not playing on Sunday to do this. If your interested let us know.

     
  • Jamie 11:18 pm on July 10, 2012 Permalink
    Tags: , Minnesota Kubb   

    Great turn out for the Minnesota Kubb friendly tonight at Painter Park. Special guest appearance by Dobbie and his wife Jaime from Des Moines Kubb.

     
    • Dobbie 12:56 am on July 11, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Thanks for welcoming us! We had a great time, and it was great to see new faces, old friends, and meet the folks behind PlanetKubb and MN kubb. Awesome! Let’s present who is all in the picture and what teams they will represent….

    • jakefreeberg 9:58 am on July 11, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I didn’t catch the names of all the guys in the back left, but I believe from left to right you’ve got two members of King Pins, one from Kastpinnar Kings, Christian from John Kubber Mellencamp, Cole and Anders from Tad Kubbler, Garrick from Kubbchucks, Josh from Knockerheads, Jaime from Chicks with Sticks, and Jamie of the Kubbchucks. Crouched down in front left is Me (Bork Bork Bork) and Lee from John Kubber Mellencamp. I hear that there were actually a few people there before and after this shot was taken.

  • Jamie 9:26 pm on July 10, 2012 Permalink
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    Kubb: A Sport 

    Kubbchucks very own Jim Bernard has been firing up some practice Kubb rounds at home and his kids have taken an interest in the game. His kids put together this great introduction slide deck to Kubb. For those of you new to the game, take note.


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  • Jamie 10:28 pm on July 8, 2012 Permalink
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    Planet Kubb Scoring System (Beta) 

    Most sports have scores and many even have a box score that shows the progression of the game. Baseball fans can look at a box score from a game and relive the game just looking at a series of numbers. We’ve been wanting to be able to do the same thing for Kubb for a long time but there wasn’t any standard system for recording a game. No standard notation system. This topic has been discussed here on Planet Kubb before and my goal was to get something that had a number of features:

    1. An easy notation system using nothing but standard text.
    2. The notation should be scalable so it works for games tracking player by player details, or simple for games with less detail.
    3. Envision something that could be sent over Twitter so people could virtually watch a game turn by turn, tweet by tweet.
    4. It should be language neutral so Kubb games can easily be shared globally.

    I think we’ve got that now, and then some!

    This weekend I slapped together three things: some clarification on the Planet Kubb Notation system, a Planet Kubb Scoresheet to use on the Pitch and the Planet Kubb Wiki can store these games and calculate statistics off of the games.

    Notation

    2f/f/-/b/-/b

    That string is a teams turn in a Kubb game. What happened? The first throw hit 2 field kubbs. The second hit a single field kubb. The third baton missed. Fourth hit a baseline kubb. Fifth missed. Sixth hit another baseline kubb.

    We can extend this further.

    jamie:2f/jamie:f/garrick:-/garrick:b/jamie:-/garrick:b

    That is the same series of throws, but here the players name has been added in front of the action so we can generate player by player statistics. You can also see we threw this turn “Chad style“, each throwing 2 batons and reserving a final baton each for the end.

    Those names are a bit long to type over and over though, so in real use we would use an initial.

    j:2f/j:f/g:-/g:b/j:-/g:b

    The notation system proposed here is very simple. The player notation is entirely optional. There are only a few symbols used. It’s very fast!

    The Planet Kubb Notation wiki page has more details. There is even a regular expression pattern there that you could use in your own code to read these.

    Scoresheet

    At some point it would be great to score the game in realtime on your iPhone, and we’ll get there! For now, a peice of paper and a clipboard is probably the best option.

    We’ve got a couple of concepts for the scoresheet up to play with on the Scoresheet page of the Planet Kubb Wiki. Let your thoughts be known with what you like and don’t like.

    The scoresheet allows for some additional data that the notation system doesn’t handle, notably the Kubb drilling locations. The scoresheet has a miniature picture of the pitch and you can put a dot where the Kubbs land.

    Game Statistics and Storage

    If you have a game scoresheet you want to share it with everyone right? Even better, it would be great to know the statistics from the game. The Planet Kubb Wiki right now has a form that will allow anyone with an account to put a game into the wiki and it will then calculate statistics from the game as well as give a place to forever remember the game.

    To really test this I used the video of the championship match at the 2012 Rockford Tournament. The match was between Tad Kubbler (Minneapolis) and Pitch Slap (Des Moines). You may know who won the match, but forget that for a moment and go relive the games. Click on each link below to see the scoresheet and statistics for each game.

    1. Rockford 2012 Championship Head Slap v. Tad Kubbler (Game 1)
    2. Rockford 2012 Championship Head Slap v. Tad Kubbler (Game 2)
    3. Rockford 2012 Championship Head Slap v. Tad Kubbler (Game 3)

    I scored these games in realtime using the videos which had all the empty space cut out. This proved that the scoring system was definitely fast enough to score a game as it happens. The form on the wiki can handle an unlimited number of turns, they can be added as long as the game goes. The Planet Kubb Wiki is currently only calculating some very basic statistics for each game, mostly around batons thrown, hits and misses, advantage lines and baseline kubbs.

    Putting these three games into the system was interesting. I was curious if the (primitive) statistics being calculated now would be interesting and they were!

    • Match 1 and 2 the teams hit kubbs 2 out of 3 throws. In match 3 the ratio drops to 1 in 2 throws.
    • In Match 1 Dobbie carries Pitch Slap through the game with Tony not hitting well. In Match 3 the roles flip and Tony carries Dobbie through the game.
    • Eric’s missed King shot (=) in turn 9 of match 2 is a heartbreaker!
    • Josh (Dobbie) has a masterful drill followed by a “d:6f” in Turn 14 of Match 2.

    The page for each of these games dumps all of it’s calculated data points raw. This is still very rough.

    All of this work is licensed (like all Planet Kubb content) under Creative Commons BY-SA. Please share your feedback and we can all make this even more awesome!

    It would be great to use these scoresheets on a number of games at Nationals this weekend!

    I really want to hear from you all and what you think about this? What looks odd? What stats for games would you like to see? What do you think of the scoresheets? Does the notation make sense? What do you think?

     
    • Garrick 6:23 am on July 9, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      great work.

    • Jamie 7:17 am on July 9, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      If you want to try putting a game into the Wiki right now it’s easy, just make sure you are logged into the wiki and go to the game form. Put in a unique title for the game, something like “Kubb Friendly, Garrick v. Jamie, July 4 2012 (Game 1)”. All games must have a unique title.

      The form is pretty easy to use, just add turns as you need.

    • Chad B 8:37 am on July 9, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hey Jamie, Chad and I were talking about a score sheet just the other day. We said we should bring something with us to the Nationals. People would start wondering what we were doing after our throws. Great forms Jamie!!! Awesome work my friend

      • Jamie 11:06 pm on July 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        That’s awesome Chad. Check out the big revision to both the scoresheet and the notation system that was posted tonight. I think this is really solid now.

    • THansenite 9:04 am on July 9, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I actually developed a game tracking sheet last winter for keeping stats on games. The v2 sheet only accounts for a one on one match and I was tweaking it for team play in v3. Here is the tracking sheet if you are interested: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5FuVACCN0-vbHQ2djFvaDBxekE

      I also have a spreadsheet I built as a proof-of-concept for a complete stat tracking program for a college class I was taking. Using only kubb hits and kubbs thrown, it could tell you at any given point in the game how many kubbs were sanding on each baseline, in the field, and current percentages for all shots. A few of the DM people have seen the program that I named KITE (Kubb Interactive Tracking Engine).

    • John Pederson 9:54 pm on July 9, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      This is why I love this game.

    • Chris Hodges 10:31 pm on July 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Can we get a link to the game form (and recorded games) on the left side of the wiki? A group similar to “Information” or “Planet Kubb” would be ideal.

      Also – LOVE this. Definitely taking some prints to EC this weekend. Part of me really wants to record every game I play, but I think I’ll have to settle for every game I watch. Gotta keep my focus!

      “It is bad when one thing becomes two.”

      • Jamie 11:02 pm on July 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        That is a great idea @chrishodges — I added a section for “Games” in the sidebar with links to various game related stuff. Thanks for the suggestion.

        Note that the form for entering the games and the templates that display the game output are really rough now. A lot could be done there to make it look really nice and show even more interesting data. This is just the start.

    • Jamie 10:57 pm on July 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I just gave the notations a significant polish and added a lot of examples to help people understand how to use the notation. It would be great if people could take a look.

      http://wiki.planetkubb.com/wiki/Notation

      The example and full game example I think help a lot. The big thing added here is more flexibility and the notation was previously missing drills and advantage line indicators. There also was no way to indicate an illegal king hit (lose the game) — thanks @jakefreeberg for that catch.

      I think this round is really, really solid. I also changed the output of the game form on the wiki to look more like the revised version. I really enjoyed the full game example. I can see how I would easily be able to reconstruct a game I never saw by looking at that.

    • Jamie 11:05 pm on July 10, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      A new, really close to done version of the printed scoresheet is also available now. Check it out.

      http://wiki.planetkubb.com/wiki/Scoresheet

      We are planning on having a bunch of these printed and bringing them to nationals this weekend.

      • Chris Hodges 12:20 am on July 11, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Wondering if it would be a good idea to have a box at the top of the page to list players 1-6 (or thru 8?) for each team. Could save a little time on the shorthand to just call somebody “P3” rather than “Scott S.”

        Another outlier situation to consider is the rescue – my opponent toppled 6 total kubbs, but with my first one I am rescuing a previously established field kubb I had left in play last turn. I take their Adv Line away (presumably), and am technically throwing 7 kubbs this round. Do you just update the Inkast box with the new number, or should there be an extra field to capture rescues?

        Also, I’d really like to see that Inkast box get a little more robust, counting kubbs to start with, kubbs rescued, kubbs OOB once (rethrows), and penalty kubbs.

  • Dobbie 11:49 am on July 6, 2012 Permalink  

    Kubb AGOT Winter is coming meme

    Prepare yourselves

     
  • Jamie 10:43 pm on July 1, 2012 Permalink  

    One does not simply aim in Kubb 

    via One does not simply…

     
  • Jamie 10:34 pm on July 1, 2012 Permalink  

    I’m not sure what this guy is doing with this Kubb set, but I’m not sure he should be allowed to have a Kubb set.

    Note, looks like a BEX Set.

    via Tower out of kubb. (happy)

     
  • Jamie 8:04 pm on July 1, 2012 Permalink
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    Don’t Drink and Kubb 

    This was the scene the morning after a late night of Kubb at our extended family reunion in North Dakota.

     
    • Jamie 8:05 pm on July 1, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      By the way, a Kubb set was ordered that same night shipping to North Dakota. Spreading Kubb westward!

      • jakefreeberg 9:26 pm on July 1, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        We played a couple guys from Montana in a Tourney last year, but I do think that westward is a good direction to spread some Kubb.

      • THansenite 9:10 am on July 2, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        A guy from Utah noticed my 2011 nationals shirt a few weeks ago. I guess kubb is gaining a pretty big following out there as well.

    • Bricker 9:34 pm on July 1, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Awesome shot

    • Dwayne 7:59 am on July 2, 2012 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Kubb should be spread in all directions!!!

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